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Comparative review: VS Factory [40 mm]Rolex Submariner series 116610LN-97200 black dial watch (Black Water Ghost)

@Rolex · 2 Nisan 2021

Comparative Review vs Factory 40Mmrolex Submariner Series 116610L... - Front View and Case Design

Comprehensive comparative analysis of Factory 40Mmrolex Submariner Series 116610Ln 97200 Black Dial models with Comparative Review: Case finishes, movement precision, dial details and production tolerances are examined in detail with Saat Detective expertise standards.

You can think of VS's brand new 3135 Water Ghost SUB as an improvement over the RXF/XF version; The details that everyone is curious about are processed much more finely. Of course, the biggest advantage for all of you and the real innovation made on behalf of the Water Ghost is this: VS's brand new 3135 version carries VS's latest development, the VS3135 one-piece movement, which was designed completely from scratch. It's not one of those old, modified 3135 movements on the market. It rewrites history that Replica 3135 movements have poor workmanship and unstable quality.

VS's brand new 3135 Water Ghost SUB model has been developed on the RXF/XF version (if you are interested, you can check out the detailed review of the RXF/XF version) and the details have been processed much more finely. Let me first list the topics that everyone is curious about and that I can explain to you clearly:

1. The color of Lume beads is closer to the texture of the original. The glass on the Lume bead is sapphire glass.

2. The color of the marking coating of the ceramic bezel was made in a brighter silver tone, referencing the color of the brand new original bezel. Since most versions on the market take used or old originals to the factory and produce them, the color of the ceramic bezel coating is silver gray.

3. VS hour and minute hands (seconds, minutes, hours) and the original's hour and minute hands: there is a clean, sharp right-angle junction where the round and square hand body meet; In other versions on the market, the rotation junction of the hand is always curved, the difference is especially evident in the second hand. Moreover, most of them are not real solid pointer shafts. This is a point that must be checked to understand whether the watch is real or a replica.

4. The following was done between the VS case body and the bracelet end ring

When viewed from the side, there is a step and all four ears have the same step effect, when viewed from the front, there is no gap. From now on, you won't have to worry about buying and selling VS Water Ghost one by one. This is a basic standard.

5. The VS version has made the crown work exactly like the original, in perfect consistency. The teeth of the crown are distinct and sharp, but they do not sting the hand.

6. Since the ear pins of the VS version are made according to the mold of the original, they can be used interchangeably with the original. The details of the bracelet end ring are the same as the original: sandblasting, then engraving the text and logo.

7. The details on the inside of the case lug are the same as the original: there is a vertical brushing pattern and engraved text.

8. The bracelet of the VS version uses imported sandpaper and increases the number of brushings, making the brushing pattern closer to the texture of the original; clear, subtle and complete.

9. The chamfering processing of the bracelet of the VS version is perfect; It is comfortable when worn and does not feel like a foreign body.

10. The hardness of the VS buckle has been adjusted according to the original. It is easy but tight when opening and gives a slight cushioning feeling when closing. Guaranteed in terms of quality; If the small crown emblem falls off within three years without user error, VS after-sales service replaces the buckle free of charge.

11. The brand new 3135 version of VS carries the VS3135 one-piece movement, which is designed completely from scratch and is the latest development of VS. It's not one of those old, modified 3135 movements on the market. It rewrites history that Replica 3135 movements have poor workmanship and unstable quality. ……

1. The color of Lume beads is closer to the texture of the original. The glass on the Lume bead is sapphire glass.

The “lume bead” detail we took by putting VS's brand new 3135 side by side with the original, are you satisfied with this texture? VS has once again improved upon the RXF version; The overall color and texture are better, restoring the clear and sparkling appearance of the original lume bead. That little clear layer on top of the Lume bead is actually a piece of sapphire glass.

2. VS referenced the color of the brand new original bezel; shiny silver. The versions on the market are always silver grey.

So why did some enthusiasts previously think that the color of the ceramic bezel inscriptions should be brighter silver, while others argued that it should be more silver gray?

Because some enthusiasts were holding the brand new original, some were comparing it with the used/old original; Different standards give different results. Since all the versions on the market take the used/old original to the factory and produce it, the writings are made silver gray and appear to have darkened over time. VS's ceramic bezel text color is currently the version that gets this right. You can reference the color of the 41 mm original you last purchased. You will see that soon the ceramic bezel coating color of some versions on the market will begin to be upgraded to this shiny silver tone, following VS.

Let me share a watch using experience here. The plating color of the used original bezel darkens over time and appears silver gray. But this color change is reversible. So, if you think the silver gray looks old, you can take it to a watch repair place and have the watchmaker give your favorite watch a spa for around XXX; After cleaning, the plating color returns to a sparkling silver, as if it were new (good prices when selling second-hand watches or second-hand cars always come from cleaning; watches are actually washable, too). Those who have an ultrasonic cleaning machine at home can also throw it away and wash it, but the results will be a little average. The color of the VS ceramic bezel is also reversible; The same method applies to him too.

3. The VS version has a truly solid needle shaft; The hour and minute hands are currently the only version that is truly true to the original. Real, no exaggeration.

Some time ago, the versions on the market began to announce that they were switching to solid needle shaft one after another. Some versions fake promotion; It appears in the promotional image but not in reality, as people say, "text factory"; Some versions have a decorative hand spindle (you can look at the second hand of the market version in the image above, that is the fake decorative hand spindle).

The VS has a truly solid hand shaft (you can see the seconds hand of the VS version in the image above).

In fact, what is much more obvious than this solid hand shaft detail (you need to enlarge it to see clearly) that the market versions exaggerate is the difference in the external appearance of the hour and minute hands; This is the point at which you can directly distinguish the real thing from the replica with the naked eye, without the need for any magnification.

A problem that has existed on the hour and minute hands of all versions on the market, whether from a large or small factory, for over ten years.

VS hour and minute hands and the original's hour and minute hands: there is a clean, sharp right-angled junction where the round and square hand body meet; In other versions on the market, the rotation junction of the hand is always curved, the difference is especially noticeable in the second hand.

4. The following was done between the VS case body and the end ring

When viewed from the side there is a step, when viewed from the front there is no gap. From now on, you won't have to worry about buying and selling VS Water Ghost one by one. This is the most basic standard.

In many versions on the market, if you pay attention, in mass production there is often a height difference between the four lugs of the case body and the end ring of the bracelet, even the end ring remains higher than the case lug, in some of them a huge gap that transmits light can even be seen. The VS case body achieves this: there is a step when viewed from the side, but there is no gap when viewed from the front. Moreover, there is the same tapping effect in all four ears.

From now on, you won't have to worry about buying and selling VS Water Ghost one by one. This is the most basic standard. We handle the details you are wondering about well.

5. The VS version crown worked perfectly, it is in perfect condition. The teeth of the crown are distinct and sharp, but they do not sting the hand.

6. Since the ear pins of the VS version are made according to the mold of the original, they can be used interchangeably with the original. The details of the bracelet end ring are the same as the original: sandblasting process, engraved text and engraved logo are available.

The details of the VS bracelet end ring are the same as the original: sandblasting, followed by engraving of the text and logo.

7. The details on the inside of the case lug are the same as the original: there is a vertical brushing pattern and engraved text.

This area on the inside of the case lug is a place you cannot normally see because it is covered by the bracelet; The VS version handled this detail carefully. Vertical brushing pattern followed by lettering engraving. We handle every detail completely.

8. The brushing pattern of the bracelet of the VS version has been processed closer to the texture of the original; clear, subtle and complete.

The good or bad brushing detail on the bracelet surface affects the texture of the entire watch. The bracelet of the VS version makes the brushing pattern closer to the texture of the original by using imported sandpaper and increasing the number of brushings; The pattern is clear, fine and complete. The measure of everything is original. It's not based on your impressions, it's accurate when you compare it to the original.

9. The chamfering processing of the bracelet of the VS version is perfect; It is comfortable when worn and does not feel like a foreign body.

If the brushing on the bracelet surface affects the texture of the entire watch, whether the bracelet edges are well processed or not also affects how comfortable it is when worn and whether it sinks into the hand. The edge processing of the VS bracelet is perfect, it is comfortable when the wrist moves, there is no foreign body feeling. To look at the bracelet edge processing, just hold it to the light and look at it from the side as in the image above, then you can see it clearly; Did you learn?

10. The hardness of the VS buckle has been adjusted according to the original. It is easy but tight when opening and gives a slight feeling of resistance when closing.

The buckle of the versions on the market is either too loose or wobbles when opening and closing; or it's too tight, too tight to open, you injure your nail trying to force the buckle open.

According to VS, compared to other parts, the force and feeling of opening and closing the bracelet clasp is an extremely important experience point for you, since it is the thing you touch the most in daily life and open and close several times every day.

VS worked hard on the force and adjusted it according to the original. It is easy but tight when opening and gives a slight cushioning feeling when closing. It reproduces as much of the feeling and force of the original as possible.

VS is guaranteed for quality. With many versions on the market, annoying situations such as the bracelet clasp falling off the small crown emblem a few months after the Water Ghost was purchased are common. What is even more unacceptable is that they make the consumer pay for this product quality problem and replace the XXX buckle. If the small crown emblem falls off within three years without user error, VS after-sales service will replace the buckle free of charge.

VS brand new SUB: we handle the details you are curious about well

VS brand new SUB: we handle the details you are curious about well

1. By carrying VS's brand new 3135 movement, it rewrites the history of the poor workmanship and unstable quality of 3135 movements on the market.

2. Reliable detail workmanship, product quality and good after-sales service in the long term. We handle the details you are wondering about well.

3. Making the best product, selling at a reasonable price. Giving importance to user experience. Without exaggeration or deceiving the customer.

4. All customers who support, trust and purchase VS brand new 3135 series products in 2020 enjoy the privilege of after-sales replacement/upgrade with the latest parts at half price for three years. Change whenever you want, enjoy the upgrade.

Friends who order, please give VS some time; The factory will start deliveries gradually (we cannot lower the standard just to catch up with the shipment). Good things take time; We will respond to your choice with the best product.

Finally, let me finish by explaining the self-protection feature of the date dial of VS's brand new 3135 movement. Many watches go to the factory for after-sales service because there is a date problem. Some of it is caused by the consumer not paying attention when setting the date and jamming and deforming the date dial gear or date setting gear; This causes problems such as the date not being set, skipping, or being incorrect. In order to reduce the failure rate of the date dial, VS designed the date dial self-protection function into the brand new 3135 movement. After the date is fast skipped, the date cannot be quickly adjusted from the second stage when the hour hand is between 0-8. This prevents the date dial gear or date setting gear from getting stuck and deformed. First you need to turn the hour hand past eight and then back; Between 0-8 (can be done in all 24 hours), the date can be skipped normally from the second level.

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Saat Dedektifi Expert Score

Model: Rolex Submariner 116610LN · VSF Super Clone (A+)
9.8/10
Case Geometry and Metallurgy9.9 / 10
Dial Details and Indices9.9 / 10
Mechanism Sensitivity and Reserve9.9 / 10
Bracelet, Clasp and Tolerance9.8 / 10
4.9

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Conclusion & Detective Verdict

As seen in our technical review of the Rolex Submariner 116610LN model; The optical tolerances of the case, the dial typography and the stable operating character of the mechanism take the model to the top level of its segment. It is a perfect choice for collectors with its wrist ergonomics, material quality and micron level finishing success.


Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Which movement is used in the Rolex Submariner 116610LN model?

In this model, the model's high stability integrated caliber or Swiss-norm Clone movement is used; Deviation tolerance is in the range of 2-5 seconds per day.

What is the case material and stainless steel quality?

Made from solid 904L/316L stainless steel with high corrosion resistance; It exactly reflects the original feeling of weight and texture.

Is there AR coating on the sapphire glass surface?

Yes. There is a colorless double-sided AR coating on the scratch-resistant sapphire crystal glass surface to prevent glare and reflection.

How is the waterproof performance?

With its seal-tested crown system, it is fully resistant to pressure up to 50-100 meters and daily water contact.

Does Saat Dedektifi have expertise assurance?

All technical controls, timegrapher measurements and case tolerances received full marks from Saat Detective expertise standards.


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