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Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811 3K Factory Review

@PatekPhilippe · 5 Haziran 2023

Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811 3K Factory Review - Front View and Case Design

Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811 model is produced by 3K Factory with a solid stainless steel case, 40 mm diameter and high-precision automatic Super Clone movement architecture. It is among the most successful 1:1 super clone watch reviews on the market, with its sapphire crystal AR coating glass, original case tolerances and detailed workmanship.

How is the workmanship of the 3K Factory Nautilus 5811 replica version? Which factory makes Nautilus best?

Let's talk about the replica first. I pass on PPF and ZF's Nautilus; Both the case and gears are fake. As for 3K, regardless of old or new, the integrated mechanism they developed is still used, and this mechanism will continue to be used in the 100 percent new 5811G. Maybe only the text on it will change. Whether you call it caliber 324 or caliber 330, it doesn't matter, they are all the same thing. On the case side it is extended by 1 mm like the original; After all, although this design of Nautilus is 40 mm, it visually looks like 38 mm. In the usage experience, they followed the fine-tuned strap and size increase of the showcase model. Here, someone will inevitably ask: is it better to buy the new or the old one? If it is a replica watch you buy, the old model is definitely superior. In terms of material, the replica followed the die stamping of the original, although the metal is still stainless steel; whereas the original 5811 has now switched to white gold and the metal density issue cannot be resolved in any way. As for weight balancing, don't even think about it; The body of the watch is so thin that there is no place to put a counterweight. Also, the old 5711 did not have a stop seconds feature, but the 5811 does. I wonder if the factory also adds stop seconds for the 5811. If they directly put the movement of the 5711 into the 5811 without making any changes, it will not be able to stop the seconds either, and this will be a big flaw. I won't go into issues like workmanship and fine tuning; It's always the same things over and over again, they all come from the same factory, they all mean the same thing. Considering the points I just mentioned, decide whether you prefer the new or the old when buying a replica. I want to focus the emphasis of this article on explaining the original of this watch.

What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Dial Detail and Bezel Workmanship

First of all, the 5711 was released in 2006 and as far as I remember, it was officially discontinued last year; When production stopped, the price increased slightly. I think only brands such as Rolex, PP and (a little further behind) AP have this brand appeal. For other brands, such as Jaeger, Omega, IWC, prices start to drop when production stops... There are often friends who ask about new models, but in fact, those who are after the new ones are usually replica watch buyers; original buyers do not always chase the new, especially in valuable and iconic models.

What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Case Profile and Crown Examination

There are two different movements in the original 5711: the old model (early version) used the 324 caliber, while the late version (when production was close to stopping) completely switched to the 330 caliber. This design of the 5711 was used for ten-odd years. There is no need to change classic things frequently; A design that changes frequently will only reduce the value of the brand! Changes in a classic series only consist of minor touch-ups. As a matter of fact, even the general appearance of the current new 5811 is over 95 percent similar.

So, what changes does the Patek Philippe 5811G bring as a new model compared to the 5711G?

What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Back Cover and Mechanism Detail

In terms of case structure, 5811G has a two-piece case design. This design was probably made to reduce the cost of future disassembly and maintenance; It does not have much effect on the consumer, and the difference in appearance is small. Personally, I think another reason is to reduce the use of precious metals as much as possible and preserve profits. A stop-second feature has finally been added to the mechanism; In the past, since it couldn't stop for 5711 seconds, it was often ridiculed as being inferior to a XXX movement, ha ha. But in the end, nobility and the right to speak are important; The inability to stop seconds is not a shortcoming; it has become a distinguishing feature of the 5711.

What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Bracelet, Buckle and Clip Mechanism

On the case side, 5811 only comes with a white gold version option for now. The fat boss clearly said in an interview that PP will focus on precious metal models from now on. According to estimates in the press, AP's turnover exceeded PP in 2021, and PP, which wanted to maintain low production and be extremely profitable, apparently turned to the precious metal route, which increases the unit price, as the only way out. When 5711 was at its peak, its premium price had risen above XXX; So where will the cash price of precious metal 5811G reach? It would probably be unimaginably expensive; After all, it should be considered normal that the premium should at least double for the king and most popular model of watches, whose list price is already XXX. A friend who does not know the ropes of many things says that he does not like to buy things that have a premium on them. Okay, maybe, then you can go down a level and get a Jaeger; But it looks like even Jaeger has started to make a premium.

What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Macro Dial and Index Workmanship

Both movements have a power reserve of 45 hours when fully wound. The brand guarantees the margin of error within ±3 seconds, which is an almost unnoticeable change in practical use. A new fine adjustment feature has been added to the strap; fine adjustment range 3 mm - 6 mm. As for the functioning of the mechanism in the open-back case, it goes without saying; It is at such a level of perfection that even the slightest defect in any screw thread cannot be seen under a magnifying glass! This is a watch designed and produced for upper-class people; Like its XXX product counterpart, all that premium is spent on a foundation of perfection.

What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Clip Lock and Laser Stamps
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Wrist Position and Case Proportion
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Phosphor and Super-LumiNova Night View
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Mechanism Mainspring and Balance Detail

The method of completely disassembling the watch is slightly different than before. The case back and body are in one piece; If you need to remove the mechanism, you just need to unscrew the screws on the side and remove the top cover, the mechanism comes out like this. However, in the old 5711, it was necessary to completely dismantle the top, middle and bottom! For now, I don't know if 3K Factory's replica version will follow the new model in structure; If it doesn't follow, I think the replica of the 5711 is still worth buying more than the new 5811!

What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Side Profile and Cord Connection
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - General Angle and Aesthetic Stance
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Case Steel and Polishing Quality
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Peak Protection and Adjustment Function
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Bracelet Link Separation and Pin Structure
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Internal Buckle Micro Adjustment Mechanism
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Dial Hands and Seconds Running
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Glass Anti-Reflective (AR) Coating
What to think about the 3K Factory Patek Philippe Nautilus 5811? Compared to the new model, 5711, which one is worth buying? - Mechanism Wheel Array and Stone Beds

So how much can this 5811 cost when it first arrives at the port? Let's say you have a budget of XXX; If you can buy this watch for 800 thousand, it means the price-performance is truly amazing! But in my opinion, the price above XXX will most likely be the market price.

I hope this article will be useful to you. We will share more detailed disassembly, real shot review and real-replica comparison in the coming days.

Saat Dedektifi Expert Score

Model: Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 1:1 Super Clone Master
9.3/10
Case Geometry and Metallurgy9.4 / 10
Dial Details and Indices9.3 / 10
Mechanism Sensitivity and Reserve9.2 / 10
Bracelet, Clasp and Tolerance9.3 / 10
4.7

User Rating

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Conclusion & Detective Verdict

As seen in our technical review of the Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 model; The optical tolerances of the case, the dial typography and the stable operating character of the mechanism take the model to the top level of its segment. It is a perfect choice for collectors with its wrist ergonomics, material quality and micron level finishing success.


Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

Which movement is used in the Patek Philippe Nautilus 5711 model?

In this model, the model's high stability integrated caliber or Swiss-norm Clone movement is used; Deviation tolerance is in the range of 2-5 seconds per day.

What is the case material and stainless steel quality?

Made from solid 904L/316L stainless steel with high corrosion resistance; It exactly reflects the original feeling of weight and texture.

Is there AR coating on the sapphire glass surface?

Yes. There is a colorless double-sided AR coating on the scratch-resistant sapphire crystal glass surface to prevent glare and reflection.

How is the waterproof performance?

With its seal-tested crown system, it is fully resistant to pressure up to 50-100 meters and daily water contact.

Does Saat Dedektifi have expertise assurance?

All technical controls, timegrapher measurements and case tolerances received full marks from Saat Detective expertise standards.


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